benefit the well off and well connected. now i need congress to act and they have nine days to do it. i want to bring in chris fast-breaks and michael crowley. time is running out. who blinks? i don't know that either side blinks. both sides will go after the march 1st deadline. i was talking to a very moderate senator, who was telling me he thinks this could maybe go into june where you let the sequester go into effect and you see what kind of effects there are from it, are people upset? are they feeling the pain? and at that point, you kind of have some room and you see how the politics shake out. both sides right now, as you said, are playing political chicken. right now the white house feels like the polls is on their side, they can continue to beat republicans up, saying they're favoring the rich, they don't want to talk the rich anymore, it's a strong message that worked for them in the fiscal cliff and republicans are saying

we already raised taxes, it's time to get serious about spending. who blinks i think will be determined as this shakes out and we see who is feeling the pain and how loud do those people get? >> michael, how confident is the without that thole will blink? >> first of all, they feel like the polling is with them. there's some talk in and out that air travel could be disrupted, you know, at the present time sa, lines at the airport, maybe even air traffic controls. i think beneficial text case. when you pit specific benefits, they almost always say, you know we should raise taxes. i think day to day, and people are saying my goodness, it took

me twice as long to fly to chicago than a week ago, because we're having this crazy budget fight, why can't we raise taxes a bit? that's exactly what the white house wants. let the republicans have this test case and let people see what happens. i'll bet people say raising taxes a bit on the wealthy is fine. the way it could backfire is if people don't really notice, it's not such a big deal, it turns out there's a lot of fat to trim after all. it will be interesting to see to see how it plays out. >> 3% say they would blame president obama, but chris, even if that's true, is it completely different when it comes down to congressional districts? >> absolutely. everybody loves cutting in the abstract, but nobody wants to cut things in their district, whether it's defense bases or medicare benefits. nobody wants to take that on. what we're seeing from both sides is this idea, let's play

out our philosophies. i was talking to a senior senate republican aide yesterday who said what you can expect to see from us next week is a caricature of democrats, republicans feel like democrats successfully charactered mitt romney who favors the rich over the middle class, played him as a greedy republican. so they're going to flip the script a bit on democrats and say, hey, these are the guys who love big g. they love big spending, they can't get new, they can't find anything to cut in a trillion dollar budget? you have to be kidding me. we'll see a replay of these very stereo typical care ka turs that both parties like to trot out. that's why i believe there won't be a lot of movement, even as the senators bring their sequester bill to the floor that would avoid some of these kits. >> let me get your take on this quote -- in hans christian andersen terms, obama is the

princess and sequester is the pea. over the next ten years it amounts to a $1.16 trillion cut or roughly three cents on every dollars. we might as well begin our great national bankruptcy proceedings right now. what do you make of that analysis? >> i find it interesting, because i'm hearing this all of a sudden in unison from a lot of conservative thinkers. rich is a smart, independent thinker, but it does seem to have somewhat become the party line from the right, which is to say that they feel like we're going down this road. they're worried they're going to get blamed. so i think they're kind of cushioning their vulnerability a bit by saying, folks, actually this isn't that big a deal, this isn't that radical, and we shouldn't be talking in such apocalyptic terms about it. i think they properly understand whatever we do here is only a fraction of what the republican 'enda would call for in the long

term. one thing i find interesting is the defense hawks, the defense conservatives are saying you can't do this to the pentagon, you're going to endanger or national security. bill crystal said to do this would be deeply irresponsible, but you're seeing the economic wing of the party, the never raise taxes wing of the party is winning this argument. we're seeing a republican party that's clarifying the priorities for us. essentially saying lower spending and lower taxes are more important than the levels of defense spending that national security conservatives want. i think that's fascinating. >> the other fascinating thing i foul about this poll, and you can interpret numbers almost any way you want, i was shocked tore 22% in this poll considered themselves republicans, chris. i mean, is there a messaging problem here? >> i think so. i think republicans are trying to be the party of responsibility and they're trying to say we have a spending problem, we need to move this

forward. that's a generally popular message until you start cutting people where they can feel it. i think both sides are wondering how much do people feel it? when you have this game of political chicken, i think both sides are using this as a test case. >> even if they do feel it at home, how much are they willing to september? >> people do understand that a huge deficit is not great for the kids or grandkids, but how much will it affect me day to day? both sides i think will let this run out. it's only when the public gets up in arms and creates some pressure that i think it will force that kind of fire would force these guys to come together. >> let me bring in congressman adam schiff, california democrat. always good to see you. good morning. >> good morning, chris. >> are we going to to have to feel some serious impact before congress moves? ivities i'm afraid that's probably true. i think we will see serious

impacts. this is more than a minute execute cut. this will result in real pain, real job losses, but i think the gop has determined they need to do this for their members. in the ideological fikt within the republican party, cutting is king. it's supreme over vehement in defense or anything else. so i think they need to do it to manage their own members, but i think they'll be surprised by the reaction. they thought in 1994 shutting down the government was a good idea. it didn't prove to be, but the fact that the president is going to win this argument doesn't give me a lot of satisfaction, frankly, because it's the country that is ultimately losing here. it could dampen or economic recovery and i think the nation is poised to recover from this lingering recession, but it won't be allowed to if we have they manufactured crises every three or six months. the other interesting thing that i found about this poll,

congressman, is that the number one priority of the american people -- this is the "usa today" poll -- is cutting the deficits. do they need to replace the sequester with some targeted cuts? >> democrats certainly need to embrace the need for spending cuts. frankly, we have. if you look at the $2 trillion in deficit reduction that we have already done. 2:1 it's been spending cuts over new revenues. this is part of the reason the president is winning the argument, that is the facts are plainly on his side. he's shown a willingness to compromise. democrats have put forward cuts, offered to do more, but it needs to be balanced. that's where most of the american people are. what the american people are not willing to do is embrace protecting hedge fund billionaires and their tax breaks, or protecting the oil industry and their tax breaks over providing health care to seniors. essentially that's what the republicans are offering.

they're saying we're willing to cut benefits for poor and milled of had-class seniors, but not willing to do away with these limited tax breaks for the very wealthy among us. it's a losing argument. they can have all of the caucuses they want to figure out how to put a better face on the gop, but unless they put together a better set of priorities, they'll continue to lose this fight. >> the president did a series of interviews with local tv affiliates yesterday. let mess play a bit of what he said. >> i would like to get as much done as quickly as possible. even though i'm just starting the second term, i know that, you know, once we get through this year, people start looking at the mid terms. after that they start thinking about presidential elections. >> so clearly he thinks, as a lot of analysts do, the clock is ticking before we get into even heavier political season next year. how should he prioritize?

is he immediate effort on gun control? immigration? the sequester? >> he'll have to multitask vessel. he's right, he has limited time to act, but the most immediate priority i think is the economy. they're still struggling to keep a job or find a job. i think that is his top priority far and away, but he'll have to pursue other things at the same time. the good news is that is happening and i think it's happening successfully. we see is the congress coming together on immigration like it never has in my memory. we also see great progress i think on the gun issue with mushrooming of support for universal background checks. the good news is we'll be able to tackle many issues at the same time, but the president does have to prioritize the economy and that's what he's been doing. >> joe biden has been his point man. he'll be in connecticut today, pushing some gun legislation, but realistically, looking at the way congress has been and

the dearth of pleasurements they've had in any significant way, do you really think that they can deal with with the sequester and gun control legislation passed as well at the same time? >> well, it's a heavy challenge. just the sequester, frankly, is the biggest because the gop is not of one mind but i think we will have to do it obviously. i think in terms of the gun issue, there's a real sense of urgency, and this is the time to act and a swelling of public opinion in favor of that. i'm optimistic, but you're right, the track record for the current congress is very poor, the most unproductive in history, so if you were a betting person, you would bet against the congress, but i think there's a lot of reasons

and most compelling to indicate we will finally have immigration reform, we are going to take action on guns, and we're just going to have to deal with the sequester, because frankly we're facing another government shut jouj in a month. and i think the best-care scenario, the sequester resolution gets wrapped in with keeping the government open and a deal for a one-year period by the end of march. congressman schiff, to see you, thanks for getting up early there in california. you're shaking your head? >> i just don't see it happening all at the same time. they're talking about, we have a piece in national journal today where we talk about the republicans planning on march 4th to put forward a continuing resolution that would keep the government funded just through accept, which is the end of the fiscal year. appropriations for defense spending and veterans affairs spending. in fact the conservatives pushed

back, they were going to deal with the continuing resolution next week, but decided they wanted to make sure this sequester went back into effect on march 1st and won't be dealing with the continuing resolution until march 4th, a few days after the sequester takes effect. they want to make sure the lower spending levels are in that new resolution, so no on that. to the point of michael walking and chewing gum at the same time, we just mentioned this conference today where the vice president is going to speak this afternoon. as it's happening, there's a furious lobbying campaign. we learned that the in. ra raised over a million in january, they're going to run ads against mainly democratic senators up for reelection. can they take the pressure? >> well, it's not clear they can. this is -- it's really interesting that the president has dived into this fight as intensely as he has. this was not going to be part of his second term agenda until we

had that horrible massacre in newtown. there were a lot of people, myself included, that were skeptical there would be real political follow-up. you can see there is an issue, you know, how much gum can you chew and walk and juggle at the same time. he's taking on a huge issue, a different fight when he has other challenging priorities. to some degree you have to tip your cap to him. i think he clearly feels it. he says the day of that shooting was the worst day of his presidency, and he's followed through, but he has bitten off the big political fight. i think it's going to be tough, particularly the conservative democrats who are under pressure from the nra. background checks are so popular, it does seem like there's a pretty good prospect for that, but beyond that, i think it will be tough. michael crowley, chris frates, thank you for coming in. >> thank you. >> thank you. three people are debt after

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diploma. "new york times" reports that a four-year degree is an increasing requirement for jobs that don't use college-level skills. receptionists, dental hygienists, clerks, claims adjusters. i'm joined by catherine rample. good to see you. >> good to be here. >> there's a trillion in student loans right now, and a college degree isn't getting you what it used to. you call this degree inflation. what exact is that? >> it means that employers are requires bachelor's degrees for jobs they didn't used to. it's sort of inflating the credential from one level to the other? >> why? >> i think it's for a few different reasons. in some occupations, the job duties have actually changed, gotten more technical, things like lo jestics or supply chain management, you may need different skills today than you used to, but for most of these occupations, it seems, a, there

are so many people going to college that if you don't go to college, it's assumed there's something wrong with you, you must be unambitious or alternates slow or something along those lines, that the norms have changed. and b, there's such a huge glut of workers out there, employers know they can be picky, basically. >> the norm used to be you didn't want to hire somebody who was overqualified, because the minute something else comes up, they're going to leave. >> that's changed, because employers know through so few opportunities. they know they can hold on to these people who are overqualified, because they're grateful to get any job they can. >> let's talk about the good news, especially for folks out there with big student loans or parents who spent a lot of money trying to help their kids get a better job. sometimes there's an up side. >> absolutely. if you're talking about, well, is college worth it or isn't it worth it? it's worth it compared to what? you think about the people who didn't put in the four years,

they're getting shut out of from these opportunities all together. at least if you have the college degree, you're getting a job. if you look at the unemployment rates for college graduates versus people who just went to high school, they're about twice as high for people who went to high school. at least ugetting a job if you have a degree, and even if the economy picks up, you know, there will be opportunities for growth. >> you talk about one young woman who was a fashion and retail management graduate, $100,000 in students loans, work fog $37,000 a year as a receptionist, but she seems happy. >> the previous opportunities had been working at a retail cash register, works at a makeup store, at a bridal boutique, working at an office that's much nic nicer, she is has benefits, a steady paycheck, she knows her hours. she has a lot of debt, but she's better off than she would have been had she not had it. >> where does this leave people without a four-year college

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in a complete about-face, republican governor rick scott of florida is backing medicaid expansion under president obama's health care law. he fought fiercely against the affordable care act for years. now this decision on a key component of the law could bring coverage to an additional 1.3 million floridians. joining miss is chris cofin analysis, and andy dean. good morning. >> good morning.

>> governor scott relied heavily on the tea party throughout the 2010 campaign, here is what member is telling "the miami herald" this is just another example of republicans lying to floridians. he's the ben ticket arnold to the patriot and the tea party movement. >> as far as what rick scott is doing, he's running for reelection. he gets three years to bring people in in the medicaid expansion. think of it in two ways. one he's setting up a state exchange. rick scott has said no action but he's not alone. 26 out of the 50 states are not setting up the exchange. another seven are doing a hybrid, so you have 33 of the 50 states saying no. he's saying yes, give me medicaid money for three years while i run for reelection. so all this is is aself serving

political move. one thing that people can agree upon, nobody likes rick scott. >> do you think this is just aself serving political move, or a tacit admission that there are some good things about the affordable care act? >> i want to believe he woke up and saw the light that it was a good thing, that basically expanding medicaid to people, you know, who need it the most, because they're not making much money and working jobs that don't provide health care coverage. but the reality is he is facing, you know, a reelection campaign where his poll numbers are in the toilet. the reality hi faces unless he does something dramatic to change his image he'll have a tough reelection. unfortunately i feel it had more to do with politics than policy. that put aside, the good news is you have a million-plus families that will be covered by, you

know, the president's health care plan. that's good for the country and good for florida. >> it's been pointed out there's the pragmatists and the opponents. republican governors embracing parts of the law like chris christie, john kasich, susanna martinez, 13 republican governors have refused to implement major pieces of the law, rick perry, bobby jindal, bob mcdonald of virginia, all holding out, because either, and i'd like your pin -- either they're trying to protect their political futures with their base, or is it something else? >> well, look, it's part and parcel in the sense that these governors each have short-term political decisions to make, but the long-term aggregate is a financial tickling time bomb. anybody with any business degree or common sense whatsoever knows that fact. the cbo, an independent budget office said there will be a

trillion of subsidy costs for obama care. we currently can't afford the government we have, yet a trillion in new liabilities? the issue here is the larger program of obama care. when you look at rick scott and chris christie they'll take bits and piece toss help their individual states. i get that, but the larger program will financially implode until its own weight. that's just an economy reality. >> well, what kind of positioner these republicans in, who are, you know, rick scott, given the example he just decided he couldn't say no to that amount of money. do you think it's a situation where it's a year or two from now where we'll be litigating this against? >> republicans will never not litigating this. they've not come to terms with the fact that it is the law of the land. in terms of how it will explode the deficit, put aside the fact that analysis have shown it will

cut the deficit. the idea that you're going to provide health care security -- you can laugh about it all you want, but at the end of the day it's not a laughing matter. >> we're at 16.4 trillion. >> let me finish. >> go ahead. >> you're talking about coverage for people who don't have it. >> we want to help people. >> let me finish. >> the answer is less government. >> i'm glad that mantra works, the reality is the american people aren't buying it. the last time i saw, if somebody doesn't have health care, they're not going to be able to wish it upon themselves. they need help. >> in a way chris is right. i'll grant you this. obama care does benefit people at the very top and also people at the very botch, because they're getting something for free they never had before, but the people who are most hurt are the 80% in the middle class who like their doctor and will get thrown off their health care. look at university studios. >> i love the scare tactics.

>> starting january 1st of next year. >> okay. chris, get, i'll let you answer that and then we've got to go. >> his mathematics and facts are wrong. at the end of the day you're talking about reducing costs expanding coverage to people who need it the most. republicans have not come to terms with the fact this is the law of the land. the ones that haven't will end up with the political consequences of it. a spirited conversation, thank you, gentlemen. >> thank you so much. >> thank glue we're still watching this breaking new ksnv reporting three people dead after that shootout on the strip. reportedly it started with two cars, a maserati, suv, then the maserati his a taxi, a change reaction crash. you know flamingo and las vegas boulevard is very busy action but now closed during the investigation.

we will continue to monitor the situation. a massive winter storm is bearing down on the country's midsection. take a live look at wichita, kansas. heavy snow, high winds, up to 10 inches expected if some parts. jim cantore is live in lincoln nebraska. are you expecting similar conditions to hit there? >> reporter: when you show a camera just like in wichita, chris, probably this evening you'll see the same situation. all that is move north from wichita, now into kansas city. we in lincoln, northwest of kansas city, are just getting into the light snow now. you can see we have pretty good visibility, so not coming down that heavy. 22 degrees outside, winds out of the east, you can see the flags blowing. the wind will get stronger as the snow comes in. we've had watched this snow go from wichita, as you showed, now obviously with that heaviest snow pushing to the northeast, they have a chance to clear those roads, but it was an

absolute whiteout. we had thunder, lightning with that snow. it has moved up to the i-70 corridor basically from salina through kansas city into the column by contraand missouri where they're getting the thund thundersnow. unfortunately that has snarled up traffic. anybody on the roads is facing very, very dangerous conditions. it is quold, windy and here comes the snow. you can see it moving into nebraska and iowa. i expect omaha, des moines, kansas city and even st. louis for tonight's rush hour to be very impacted. so i-70 to i-80, tough, tough travels. >> airlines are already cancelling flights. jim cantore, thank you very much. on the news feed, the united nations security council is meeting this morning about imposing even harsher sanctions against north korea. the government anoned laus week it had successfully carried out

the third nuclear test. it looks likely china will joins u.s. in the push for more sanctions. the obama administration is getting aggressive. attorney general eric holder unveiling new efforts yesterday to fight the growing theft of american trade secrets. the move comes after a virginia-based firm accused a secret chinese military unit of cyberattacks on more than 140 companies. a new report in "the washington post" says that most institutions have been hacked. pope benedict xiv is stepping down as a popular pope. according to a new poll, 76% of catholics see hiv pfeifferably. 64% also support his decision to absent kay. new york's cardinals timothy dolan has given a deposition

about sex abuse in his former archdiocese. a attorney says he answered question about publicizing names of clergy members accused in cases decades old. he's been floated around as a possible, though long shot successor to pope benedict. plus what has the u.s. and iran on the same side of the fence? we'll talk about that in ten minutes. well, it's a great time to sell your car. used cars are getting top dollars. mandy driery is here with what's moving your money? why are used cars in such demand? >> they've become so scarce s. to the point where dealers have to do things like scour craiglist, even go to the parking lots of local sporting events to try to get vehicles they can buy and resell. why, when there was such a deep plunge in new car sales in 2008 and 2010, so as a result, 3-year-old cars are really hard to find, even older models are

holding their values. if an old care, good time to sell. >> techies are going crazy over thinks new google glasses they want to test out. apparently now you can get into some sort of lottery, but it will cost you $1500? >> it is going to cost you, but it is super, super cool. google released a video yesterday. it gives you a glimpse of how it feels to wear these glasses. they're reality-augmenting headgear. i think that's the official way to describe them. a hands-free device, and activated when you say the catchphrase "okay glass" those unlock a number of functions from voice-activated image searches, even transcribed your pentagon words and send, so i can say hi chris, and you can say "okay glass" hang out with chris and it starts a google video call, and it also shows your friends that you're hanging out with exactly what you're

seeing. >> that was you on the trapeze and you said call chris, then i could see you doing the trapeze? >> the catch is you have to plunk down $1500 to test the new technology. my bet is people will do that. >> jane jetson i meant to say. mandy drury, thank you so much. which states have the happiest people tweeting? the university of vermont's mathematicians analyzed the words used in 10 million tweets. vermont fifth happiest on the list, utah is fourth. number three nevada. maine is in second, and people seem to be the most happy on twitter in -- here's a shock -- hawaii. uh, i'm in a timeout because apparently

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from 7.25 to $9 an hour. while most americans obviously support the idea, economists and lawmakers are at odds over the impact on the economy, particularly in hiring. here to help us sort it out, jared bernstein. always good to see you. good morning. >> good morning. thank you. look, the republicans' in congress argument will frankly small business in particular just can't afford it. what does history tell us. >> that's exactly the right question. we have dozens of federal minimum wage increases that have taken place, but we also have something like 19 stays -- by the way i was trying to figure out if these were the happy states. i have to go back and do a cross tab on that. but we have about 19 states that have raised their own minimum pages. so we have something unusual and

helpful, a set of signal experiments over time and across states. this research has been extremely conclusive. these job loss effects hover around zero. some fin small loss effects, but on net, the benefits of the increase by a large margin fall to the people they're supposed to, low-wage workers get a boost. >> at some point where does this money come from? the order argument is the businesses have to pass on the costs. >> that's exactly right. i have a simple acronym -- product activity, prices and profits. >> some pretty inefficient things get squeezed out a bit. rakances, turnovers, you pay people more, you have a more productive staff. but it's a small margin. i think an important effect comes from profitability.

we know that corporations and firms are more highly profitable than they have ever been while the compensation share of national income is at a historical low. workers are getting less, profit act is high. we talked to your friend peet are morici. this is what they told us, that in domestic work, for example, he told us more middle-class families will go without somebody to clean their homes or have someone do it less. could that be unintended consequences that we haven't studied? >> it certainly could not. we have studied it. that kind of statement from my friend peter betrays a lack of understanding of the literature i was just describing. again it's not 1, 2, 3, 10 studies, it's hundreds of studies, studies that do support

the textbook model that says there is some job loss effect, but you have to look at the magnitude of the negative impacts, and they're small. there are studies on the other side that show small positive effects the the point is the vast majority benefit from the increase in the pay. peter and the republicans you cited earlier simply don't like that evidence or they ignore it. >> thank you for coming in, jared. when you do the cross-tab on happiness, please come back. today's tweet of the day comes from catherine rampel. the u.s. would have fewer jobs today than it had in 2000.

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the olympics is making for strange bedfellows. the u.s., iran, cuba are all on the same page, they all want to

keep wrestling in the olympics. the executive board voted last week to cut wrestling, one of the original sports in the anchle olympics. it's not over yet, at least not completely. the general assembly makes the final decision. joining me now is dan gable. thanks for coming in. they made this decision based on global population and popularity. ioc is also known for some political intrigue, what do you think that's what this is about? it's not popular enough anymore? >> that's not true. we're in way more countries than most sports. so i think there's two

committees, the international olympic committee and fila, our international governing body, i think there are issues there. >> maybe some infighting? >> well action i think that our organization needed to do more homework, and we're finding that out right now. maybe it's a scare, but hopefully that everybody will get what they want. >> it has happened before, that only once before. it's bringing wrestling -- by that, i mean people are looking at this saying, wow that's injustice, but when they see me with wrestling on, they're like, man, you guys are getting the shaft. >> so people just come up out of nowhere? >> yeah, they don't know where i

am, see me with wrestling. we have an opportunity to lift this up, straighten this out a bit bottom line, it's going to take a massive amount of work. >> we talked about the politics of the ioc this is your competition, the things that would potential replace wrestling, karate, wakeboarding, baseball/soft wall, squash, sport climbing. ultimately this is a business. the ioc thinks these are sports that people want to see. some of them have an x-games quality about them. how much of this do you think this is about money? >> there's plenty of money out there, maybe wrestling hasn't done their part maybe it's a are the pa of a lot of different things, but i don't call it a wake-up call. it's more like you get zapped,

and then you get back up and get zapped again. it's like electric shot more. we have a chance to do something now that we have never done before, so i'm looking forward to this battle. >> so what's your strategy? i know there are representatives from ten countries there was a big meeting yesterday, but ongoing talks among those of you so intimately involved. what are you going to do? >> iran, russia, india, cuba, north korea north korea, some of these places have good wrestling. >> russia has -- >> they win the gold medals. they've really done a great job, but, you know, the strategy is the whole world to work together and the other people that can help to help us retain an olympic sport that is worldwide and doing well. >> well, we wish you well, dan

gable, olympic champion, whose medal he told me is over the firemace. good luck. keep us posted. >> yeah. the bottom line is people all over are doing things like our hometown, the state. every week they're doing something, so we have support. it's just a matter of whether we can straighten out some of these relationships. >> thank you for coming in, coach. that wraps up this hour. thomas roberts is up next. were you a high school wrestler? >> i wasn't, but i think they're great for the olympics. who stands to lose if the government takes a meet cleaver to the budget? and governors with an about-face on obama care. also, i let you down, that's what former congressman jackson told us. his father reverend jesse jackson joining me on his son's fall from grace.

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